Description
Most people use AI like a faster assistant. Leaders use it differently.
In this conversation, Geoff Woods (author of The AI-Driven Leader) explains the shift that turns AI from a shallow productivity tool into a true thought partner—one that helps you think better, make better decisions, and unlock leverage you didn’t have before.
We go deep into:*Why “better prompts” aren’t the real breakthrough*How to get AI to interview you instead of the other way around*The CRIT framework (Context, Role, Interview, Task)*A real story where AI helped a CEO find hope in 10 minutes after preparing for bankruptcy*What changes when leaders use AI for thinking, not tasks*Why this shift matters more than any specific model or tool*This isn’t about shortcuts, hacks, or automation theater.*It’s about learning how to think with AI—without outsourcing your judgment.
If AI has felt useful but shallow, this episode is designed to change that.
📚 ResourcesThe AI-Driven Leader — Geoff Woods: https://a.co/d/gLYoeUyGeoff’s podcast: AI Leadership: https://www.aileadership.com/
About Geoff WoodsGeoff Woods is the author of The AI-Driven Leader and a leading voice on how leaders use AI to improve judgment, decision-making, and leverage—not just productivity. A former Chief Growth Officer, Geoff works with CEOs, boards, and executive teams to apply AI as a thought partner, helping leaders think more clearly and make better decisions in an AI-driven world.
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Ask questions, Don't accept the status quo, And be curious.
⏱️ Timestamps:0:00 Why most people are using AI wrong2:05 Assistant vs thought partner: the shift that changes everything4:37 Why “better emails” don’t matter (and never will)6:04 The CRIT framework: Context, Role, Interview, Task7:49 A CEO facing bankruptcy asks: “Can AI help?”10:06 AI interviews the CEO — the question no one thought to ask12:16 “I hadn’t slept in 90 days” → hope in 10 minutes13:22 Why this works across industries (live workshops & Fortune 500s)15:13 Using AI as a real YouTube thought partner (thumbnail example)18:24 The hidden step most people skip after AI gives an answer19:40 Staying in the driver’s seat: how leaders give AI feedback21:54 Building an AI board (and simulating your real board)25:13 Putting your future self on the AI board27:27 What are you actually optimizing for? (endgame clarity)29:47 The 3 things AI-driven leaders do differently32:24 Will AI take jobs? How roles actually evolve34:04 The executive assistant who became an “executive multiplier”38:29 How to make yourself irreplaceable with AI43:28 Raising expectations (for yourself and your team)45:26 Are we reclaiming our humanity through AI?47:16 Why the education system is broken for an AI world49:06 What AI-first education looks like in practice52:10 Teaching kids to think with AI (not cheat with it)56:52 The moment Geoff realized AI was the future59:15 Why AI isn’t the difference — you are1:02:32 Final advice: how to start using AI the right way1:05:12 Closing thoughts